Yeah I don't get the point in having a degree, cuz everyone can finish that course, but the real skill doesn't just pop up out of nowhere!!

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Well, you dont need a degree to get a job in 3-d. But it is nice to have and can give you the extra boost to get the work. With that said if you want to get into modeling you had better know how to rig and texture also. And I wouldn't expect to get a modeling job unless I had quality z-brush material or VERY nice models. You need to cruise over to [link] to see where you need to be. It is a huge resource to all Cg people that is invaluable. Post your Demo-reel on the forums and see what they have to say. You have decent work, however It isn't amazing work, so don't be surprised when you don't get a job. This is a difficult business, and even when you get a job people will still shark you like what happened at Meteor studios (now Lumiere). Always figure out what you need to improve and one day you should get what you are looking for. But yeah a week isnt a-long time to wait to hear back on a resume. 2 weeks is probably average.

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Hmm, in finland the 3d scene isn't that huge, there are lot of small companies, and only few huge. The biggest company is propably remedy (max payne 1/2) and the second biggest is bugbear (flatout). But i know my flaws and believe i have many , i can't draw at all so that is the main reason why i know i will never be able to master zbrush or make any concept art or quality textures. And with my lack of work experience apllied on trainee work allso , so i can learn from the peolple who know what they are doing.

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yeah I didnt realize you were in another country so things may be easier there I dont know. But I wouldn't think drawing skills are a requirement to learn Zbrush. I think that a good way to get better at 3d is to check out gnomon and digital tutors tutorial DVD's. I have a few myself and they are a great help. Seriously though, look at people's demo-reels on the finished work and also the WIP forum on CG talk. You will see all skill levels and it will give you an idea of where you should be in your current career level. I learned a-lot from this thread [link]age=1&p=15
Basically this guy is an example of how not to act. You can see his work by looking at the "Cg portfolio". But These forums have always been enlightening to me thats why I suggest you dig through them.

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Hey Niko,
Getting a job in the Games Industry isn't easy. You need to be specific on what type of artist you want to be, i.e, Character, Vehicle, Environment, Texture etc & base your portfolio around it. For example, if you want to be a vehicle artist then create lots of vehicle samples & only forward them to Racing Studios. Developers don't want to see samples of work which doesn't relate to the games their producing, it shows the individual hasn't done any research on the studio.

You can probably understand the amount of people applying to games developers, hundreds a week so I'd agree with Mr-NYM, a week isn't a long time.

Applications also depend on if you followed their requirements. If they have application forms then fill them in, if they ask for 20 samples of quality work then make sure you send a minimum of 20. Entering the games industry as a junior artist isn't impossible it just takes time to get your portfolio right. It also takes perseverance, some of my candidates have been working on their portfolios for months.

A basic sum up

Specific, high quality samples in your portfolio. At least 20-25 are required.
Research the companies you're applying for, find out what criteria needs to be met. Find out what games they've developed, find out if they have intern programs etc
Dont give up - It sounds like your pretty disappointed & it's only been a week.

The standard of work required by artists in the games industry is quite exceptional. If you don't feel your work is quite there, then there are plenty of resources on the internet which offer professional tips on improving your techniques.

If you need to know anything else, feel free to contact me. Cheers

Nathan
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Ehkä kannattaa kokeilla hyödyntää kaikkia mahdollisia suhteita (minkä varmaan olet jo tehnytkin..) ja hakea johonkin pienempään lafkaan töihin. Isoimmat 3D talot Suomessa ei joko tarvitse lisää väkeä tai palkkaa vaan parasta mitä irtoaa. Harjoittelu paikkaa sieltä tuskin saa.

Yksi vaihtoehto on hakeutua opiskelemaan/töihin ulkomaille. Enemmän tarjontaa kuin Suomessa.

Jätkä tossa ylempänä puhui mielestäni asiaa eli kerro työnantajille tarkkaan mitä osaat ja haluat tehdä,''mitä vaan'' ei välttämäti kerro siitä mihin olet keskittynyt harjoittelussa. Osoita hakemukset sellaisille firmoille jotka tarvitsevat nimeomaan esim. autoja tms mitä tykkäät mallinnella ja joista sulla on paljon työnäytteitä. Tarjoa töitä freelancena esim. mainostoimistoille (vaikka Fakegraphics),jos työsi halutaan johonkin mukaan,saattaa lisätöitä tulla tai ainakin voi mainostaa että'' ne muuten käyttivät tätä mallinnusta siellä ja siinä''...
Varmaan tulee olemaan itselläkin hankalaa hankkia työharjoittelupaikkaa,oon jo nyt yrittänyt jutella ihmisten kanssa silleen että jäis paikat ja nimet muistiin. Saa nähdä sitten

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Heh sitten kun sä valmistut, mä oon varma että susta tulee todella "multi" talentti, kun olet jo valmiiksi lahjakas piirtäjä ja ymmärrät visuaalisuuden päälle!, mä päätin ottaa nyt vähän sellaisen asenteen, että harjoittelen vielä joulun yli ja kehitän tuon portfolioni uudestaan kasaan ja lisään mun töiden monipuolisuutta ja koitan saada muitankin mun taitoja esille kuin vain sen ,että osaan tehdä autoja 3d:llä . Joo mutta tää ala on oikeasti todella vaikea koska kilpailu on kova ja suhteita pitää olla.

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... don't know what to say to that .... keep trying ?

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